S. California Sectional

Day 1 Results: SoCal Sectional

There may have been weather complications in other parts of the country, but it was 65 and sunny in SoCal, perfect weather for a sectional event. After two long and interesting workouts, the following athletes find themselves within the top 5 moving into day 2.

Top 5 Men
1. Storm Huie
2. Max Fernandez
3. Jarett Perelmutter
4. Benjamin Hopkins
5. William Grundler

Top 5 Women
1. Ingrid Kantola
2. Curley Maddy
3. Lindsey Benson
4. Beth Guse
5. Stephanie Kennedy

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38 comments on this entry

1. Harold_Purser wrote...

Imagine that? A real athlete comes in a cleans up in a competition full of wod'ers?

I guess 'domination of all other athletes' can be put to rest now?

Great job Ingrid

2. Turner Salik wrote...

Love the comment, and I'm a wod'er! Great Job Ingrid, I don't know you but you were unbelievable! Now maybe we can stop hearing about the "Fittest Human on Earth!" Lets just say that there are many people put there who don't CF who would beat a wod'er any given weekend! Still love CF, but wish the extremest would calm down a bit in claiming the fittest person on earth.

3. Chris wrote...

I don't care about the above comments, but Sat. was pretty fun to watch! It is always great to see people with similar interests get together and compete and give there all every chance they got!! Very fun to watch and be apart of!!!

4. Greg wrote...

She doesn't CrossFit?
http://www.facebook.com/video/video.php?v=722606304181&ref=mf#!/video/video.php?v=722606304181

5. Greg Keoc wrote...

Maybe Ingrid will come on and comment here, but the important question is how long has she been doing CrossFit.

Obviously she has built her athletic base in fitness being a heptathlete, so if she has been doing CF for a year or so, I'd say that is learning the movements specific to CF, while her athleticism comes from her traditional training. Makes sense, and yes, evidence against that goofy banner at last year's games (as is Mikko Salo).

6. Tristan Reid wrote...

I do the early morning (6am) workouts at CFLA, and she's in there all the time. She also plays rugby. Basically she's a bad-ass and will succeed at anything she throws herself into.

Why are you guys so obsessed with this? Seems kind of a silly thing to be so worked up about. I used to do a bunch of triathlons, and there were frequently t-shirts, banners, bumper stickers etc. that claimed triathletes were 3x the other athletes, but nobody really decided to make a case about it. For some reason, when it's associated with X-Fit nobody can make a statement without it being examined from every meaningless angle. Stop posting on the internet and go work out! (sorry, that last bit should have been directed toward myself)

Anyway, nothing I say is going to change your mind, and nothing you say is going to stop CrossFitters from having fun out there, so hopefully we all just have a great day and enjoy this wonderful weather.

-t.

7. TomW wrote...

Link to results http://scores2010.crossfit.com/scoring/south-california/ is broken?

8. KDish wrote...

I'm sure there were a lot of athletes who find a post college or professional outlet for competition within Crossfit. (The #2 girl, Maddy, was a gymnast at UNC and four time All American.) I don't think there is such a thing as "the best" athlete; Lance Armstrong would dominate Manning in a 200 mile bike ride, but would be killed by Payton in a football game--and that doesn't mean either are lesser athletes because of it.

Awesome job to everybody who competed; it was inspiring to watch!!!

9. trinalv wrote...

Well said, Tristan and KDish. Congrats to ALL the athletes that competed this weekend!

10. Jesse Gilge wrote...

Harold - What are you talking about? The VAST majority, if not all, of the top crossfit athletes have a background in another competitive sport(s), including Mikko. Your statement would only be even remotely relevant if the winners had never touched "crossfit" before, completely did their own thing and then came in and won, which no one ever has. Not thats its not possible, just hasn't happend yet.

And Greg - Her "athleticism" comes from genetics, training just helps maximize your god given athletic ability. "Movements specific to crossfit"? Crossfit is comprised of moves that have been around forever, they just mash them together in workouts and time it.

I get the whole overblown "fittest men and women on earth" thing, I think its an over statement, but your points above don't hold any water in my opinion.

When someone does come in, who has never done crossfit, doesn't follow its methodology, and wins the games, I will concede that there is a better way to train for broad fitness.

11. Becca wrote...

Ingrid started training with us at CFLA last year, shortly after the SoCal Regionals. So, she's been training with us for about a year - I'm not sure if she was doing it on her own before that. She trains CrossFit regularly and with great dedication and intensity. I can also say, having been one of her coaches for the past year, that her abilities have grown HUGELY in the last year. She was a phenomenal athlete when she showed up and I don't even know the words to describe her now.

12. Colin Jenkins wrote...

socal staff,
thanks for the great weekend!

I've been checking on the scores and it seems I am one of the only men (if not the only one) who's score still hasn't been inputed for the last wod. Any idea when the scoring will be finished?

13. Ingrid Kantola wrote...

Hey everyone!
I just wanted to say a huuuuuuge thank you to all of the uber staff, judges, staff, medical team, and all the spectators! You helped to put together an awesome event with inspiring energy! I'd also like to give my congratulations to all of the other competitors for putting it all on the line and for attacking the wods with so much heart!!

As for my background- I was a collegiate level pole vaulter until july 2008. I committed to crossfit trainIng in about January of 2009. I went to the 2009 regionals as "a goddamn independent"- overwhelmed and underprepared and got 9th as an "athlete". I joined up with the cfla crew in about April 2009 and gained strength, confidence, and the community necessary to make progress. In the time since then I "learned and played" a new sport- rugby- starting in October and revisited pole vaulting for 3 months ending in January.

While I like to think of myself as a "real athlete" still, I am a "wod'er" as well and I wouldn't have gotten to run another competitive 800 at drake stadium without crossfit. And I definitely would NOT have done as well as I did without the hundreds of wods that I have struggled through in the past year and change.

This weekend was an amazing athletic experience that rivals many of my track experiences! Thank you all for being a part of it- and I'll see you at regionals!!

14. Jenn from Crossfit360 wrote...

Harold- are you kidding me? Who did you see out there today that isn't a real athlete? Ingrid- congratulations! To all the other men and women who competed, you are all amazing.

15. Luke Kayyem wrote...

Congratulations to every single competitor who "Showed up and did not quit" The entire CFLA staff who orchestrated a smooth event from start to finish and all of the volunteers and judges. This weekend reminded me of how special this community is and how lucky we are to have such a great environment that brings out the best in everyone.

Respectfully... Athlete, wod'er, Coach and CrossFitter.
Luke Kayyem

www.CrossfitScottsdale.com

16. Jessse wrote...

Maybe we all need to go back to the "what is fitness" question; there's a whole article on it in the CF journal...remember the 3 fitness standards? Some of you may be getting to caught up in the big buzz word "crossfit"...forget the name and look at the components...10 physical skills or adaptations, 3 metabolic pathways, and that you should be able to perform well at any given task. "Athlete" is a very vague term...The strong men are athletes but their not going to go win a sprint or a long distant run because they are "fringe" athletes. A good video/article to check out on the journal that was posted a while back is called "Good at everything or great at something"

17. Jackyl wrote...

Jessse, So what you are saying is that even though Ingrid, who developed her strength and athleticism WELL BEFORE finding cf, that cf and it's definition of fitness can now claim her domination?

Seems to me that she fits the rule of thumb: real athletes that have competed BEFORE finding cf consistently dominate your garden variety cf'er?

18. Sean wrote...

"It is not the critic who counts: not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles or where the doer of deeds could have done better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood, who strives valiantly, who errs and comes up short again and again, because there is no effort without error or shortcoming, but who knows the great enthusiasms, the great devotions, who spends himself for a worthy cause; who, at the best, knows, in the end, the triumph of high achievement, and who, at the worst, if he fails, at least he fails while daring greatly, so that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who knew neither victory nor defeat."
You all have been so welcoming and have made the move out here such an easier transition. I'm sorry that I can't be there to root you guys on in person. I'll be rooting you on in spirit and I wish all you the best of luck. Know that, regardless of outcome, you've already won simply by stepping into the arena." Theodore Roosevelt


19. Dan S. wrote...

Ken, and everyone else claiming that "athletes" are coming in and dominating crossfit. You're completely missing the point. I can guarantee you that nearly 80%, if not ALL of the people competing last weekend have some sort of competitive background. I played rugby, football, and soccer for most of my life. Several people at my gym come from competitive gymnastics backgrounds, or they were Marines, or they were world champion kickboxers, or 4th degree blackbelts, and on and on and on. We have all since moved on due to age or some other circumstance, but that doesn't mean that all of the sudden we've lost that distinction of being a "real athlete", as you say.

The reason you see so many former athletes taking up crossfit is that it is another realm in which to compete. I know I don't speak only for myself when I say that one of the main reasons I love CrossFit is because of the competitive aspect. Both against myself and others. CrossFit has become my "sport" now.

We are all athletes in the sport of fitness NOW, regardless of where we came from.

Finally, I'd like to say how proud I am of my coach and friend, Maddy Curley of CrossFit Hollywood! She is an amazing person and unbelievably inspiring to watch this weekend. Congratulations Maddy! And congratulations to ALL THE ATHLETES that competed this weekend!

20. Alex wrote...

I volunteered and was in the unique position of being at the starting line for the first event and the finish line for the last event. I can tell you that just to show up and put your ass on the line took a lot of guts. Anyone who does not think all the competitors are "real" athletes should try it before they say anything.

The whole event had nothing to do with how long you have been Crossfitting or what other sports you have or have not done. By the way, I'm sure there are some people who are "real" athletes in other sports who finished at the bottom of the pack, so does that mean that they are inferior to those who purely Crossfit? It is really a pointless debate.

It was a fantastic event and my congratulations go out to CFLA, all the volunteers who worked so hard, and all the athletes who gave it their best.

21. Bob wrote...

As one of the judges, I'd like to say that this was a very well-run event from the standards perspective. I've only been in the CF Community just over 2 years, and love how quickly we are responding to the need for higher standards. Let's keep on the up-slope!

As for Ingrid.... yikes. She's a beast, a true competitor. From a Coach standpoint, I think she'll do well at Regionals. She is literally only one step away from competing at the top, then there will be no question. She could get to Aromas, I don't know her training/adaptation capacity. But she's surely a new shining star from Socal.

Keep up the good work Ingrid. Hope to see you represent in July!

22. Jesse Gray wrote...

Do people with a background as a competitive athlete have some sort of edge in Crossfit? Probably, particularly if it's in a sport like the heptathlon. A foundation in exercise/strength training will help people who compete in the sport of exercise. Being a genetically gifted athlete will also help you in situations where being athletic is advantageous. This sin't really a shock. To say that any top level athlete can just come in and dominate a Crossfit competition is inaccurate though. The right athlete could probably come in and dominate the right event, if it played to their strengths but across the board, they would find serious weak points and honestly, there's a pretty good chance they could give themselves a serious case of rhabdo. I pretty sure that you could put Dan O'Brian at his peak against any of the top 16 competitors and he may beat a few of them but what if the WOD involved GHD sit-ups, thrusters and pull-ups? Maybe Dan would beat everybody on shear superhuman athleticism but would you want to be him a few hours after that WOD? Crossfit places a tremendous amount of stress on the human body and adapting to it takes time, even for elite athletes. If you're been Crossfitting for a while, it's easy to forget how sore you get at first. Well, even elite athletes get sore when they learn new movements or start doing movements with a full range of motion or at a higher intensity than they are used to. Of course, some athletes do some Crossfit movements and may even do them at very high intensity, wrestlers for instance but I can't think of any sport specific athlete that regularly tackles the spectrum of fitness that Crossfit does at the intensity that Crossfit works at. There is a very good reason for this, no other sports are as varied so there is no reason for them to. There is no sport in the world that is by design constantly varied over broad time and modal domains.

23. Jesse Gray wrote...

What are you talking about? Mikko started Crossfitting in April of 2008, almost a year and a half before his win at the games (you can check this on his bio for the 09' games) Jason started Crossfitting in 2006 according to his website at http://crossfitsantaclara.typepad.com/about.html

24. "Moose" Mustafa wrote...

ABSOLUTELY PHENOMENAL JOB by Andy Petranek and CrossFit L.A. in putting on the sectionals. The programming was FIRST RATE!

SUPER HUGE AND COLOSSAL CONGRATULATIONS to STORM HUIE from CROSSFIT360 out of Signal Hill/Tustin, who CRUSHED those WODs and finished #1 for the men!

Now that I've fixed the capslock key, all of the atheletes were a joy to watch. While we make a contest of it, let's not lose sight of the fact that the purpose of CrossFit is to provide a great means for people to achieve and maintain a high level of fitness. Do not denegrate ANY of the atheletes (oops, there goes the caPS lOCk again!), as all CrossFitters who put out the effort deserve kudos.

25. Ken wrote...

Becca,

Ingrid was a beast before crossfit. One year in the program and she already kills does not bode well for when a professional athlete in his prime decides to show up and dominate.

26. Jesse wrote...

What I am saying, Jackyl, is that if you wan't to do well in a crossfit competition u better have developed the capacity to move large loads long distances quickly. How you develop that capacity is on you and some people need to work much longer and harder to get to a competitive level based on their genes and their athletic background...Crossfit is a strength and conditioning program designed to develop that capacity probably faster and more efficiently than any other program I have seen. Some athletes may have already had a background as an olympic lifter or a marathon runner or maybe they were a strong man or a gymnast; some sports are going to have a greater carry over to crossfit than others (Josh Everett is a great example). The fact that so many people have embraced crossfit is proof that it works and without such an awesome positive community of people supporting it I don't think we'd see the results that we are seeing today.

27. Jackyl wrote...

Jesse,

You have it all wrong - not shocked though, lots of you kool-aiders think the same way.

The MAIN thing all of these great athletes have done prior to finding cf, the thing that made them strong enough to dominate 'homegrown' cf'ers in competition not debate?

One word - PERIODIZATION. It's what cf lacks and what the rest of the sporting world uses to its perfect advantage.

28. Jesse wrote...

Ok enlighten me and how you would apply periodization to Crossfit training...

29. Megan wrote...

Andy, Becca, CFLA, Judges, and Volunteers,

I just want to thank all of you for a great weekend. The workouts were creative, challenging, and well-rounded. (And, from your end, they must have been a logistical nightmare, but from a competitor's point of view everything went so smoothly.)

The judging staff were terrific, along with all the other volunteers. Thanks for providing us athletes such a great experience.

30. d.dot wrote...

Charity Vale, 2nd Place Women's finisher last year at the CF Games - (from her cf site) -"CrossFitting since November of 2006. She began a couple months after having our third child and quickly gained the best fitness of her life with much less time in the gym...she was a Level 9 gymnast growing up and a collegiate soccer player at Oklahoma City University where she graduated with a BA in Physical Education. After college she spent a few years as an ACE personal trainer at the Pro Sports Club in Bellevue before finding her passion as a fulltime mother."
Wow. Look what just doing "crossfit" can do.

Jackyl, Phil, and anyone else on these boards trying to instigate by saying that "athletes" from other sports are coming in and dominating "regular cf'ers" are basing all of this off of the results from some Sectional QUALIFIERS! That's like claiming the US is going to dominate the World Cup because we win a qualifying match. Take a hard look at every CF Games winner. They have ALL been using CF as their primary training program for a year or more. Where they came from is irrelevant at that point. And even former footballers, rubgy players, etc who come to Crossfit call themselves "Crossfitters", not "football players who sometimes do Crossfit".

And Phil, it's ignorant to think that either Connor Martin or Khalista Pappas would have been eaten alive since they DIDN'T COMPETE. Not to mention Khalista Pappas is like, 16 yrs old and Connor is also really young. I don't know either of them personally but after seeing both of them perform at the Quals/Games last year I guarantee you they'd both give you and any other S**t-talker on here a run for your money in any given WOD.

I see Jackyl's comment was deleted, but he said that following the main site isn't going to get any cf'er ready to compete for the Games. DUH. This was a point made readily apparent to anyone who saw or attended last year's games. The main site WOD's are a wonderful starting point, but anyone who wants to compete at a higher level knows they must supplement with multiple WOD's, strength components, and endurance training to have a shot.

You guys have a lot of balls coming on here talking smack with no actual evidence or valid argument to back it up. Go back to LA Fitness, we don't need you here.

31. Franklin wrote...

Interesting discussion. This makes me ask: Where on the mainpage (really the daily portal and main voice of crossfit) does it mention this:

"The main site WOD's are a wonderful starting point, but anyone who wants to compete at a higher level knows they must supplement with multiple WOD's, strength components, and endurance training to have a shot."

I thought crossfit forged elite fitness?

32. grambo wrote...

Why were the posts discussing periodization about moderated? I didn't see the problem?

Anyway, what I think that jackyl dude was trying to say, is that while these athletes may have been using CF training for a year or so, their strength and work capacity was built through other methods (involved periodization). You do not create Miko Salo in one year, that is a life time of training (as you know from watching Sisu).

33. Justin Riley wrote...

Since CrossFit is the only community to have an adequate definition of fitness, "work capacity across broad time and modal domains" We have legitimate claim to say that our sport is the test of the fittest athletes in the world.

Also every athlete who has come into CrossFit competition and done well with little CF experience was training with "constantly varied functional movement executed at high intensity." They may not have even known it, but by definition, they were basically doing CrossFit. Performing CrossFit does not simply mean aimlessly following the main site, or working on Fran, Elizabeth and Diane every other day.

All you CF ignorant douche bag haters need to either show up and compete, or bring some athletes who you coach and show us how great you are. The funny thing is that as much as some people want to hate, they spend their free time on CF websites, kinda ironic.

34. Evan wrote...

Justin:

"Also every athlete who has come into CrossFit competition and done well with little CF experience was training with "constantly varied functional movement executed at high intensity.""

You sure about that? NONE of the winners of the past games EVER trained differently?

35. Adam Adkins wrote...

The downside is that crossfit has created a legion of uninformed masses that believe crossfit invented a new way of training. they didn't. the just figured out a way to profit off the way athletes have always trained. And created a new sport along the way. No small feat. Unfortunately it created a few annoying followers who high are on loyalty and low on information.

36. Keith Opario wrote...

The problem with your statement is that by your definition, EVERYTHING athletic is CrossFit. Strength & conditioning existed before CrossFit. If you want to state that CF has the only working definition of fitness, you have to define what CF is then (be it mainpage or not) but it's not fair to say it's everything. Also, the CF definition of fitness is taken from Dynamax.

37. Tony Budding wrote...

The fitness industry has been around for a long time. People have been getting stronger, faster, and fitter using gymnastics, calisthenics, weightlifting, metabolic monostructural exercises, and various combinations thereof. If you think that's what CrossFit is, then you are correct, there is nothing new.

But that is not really what CrossFit is. The primary unique contribution CrossFit made has been this definition of fitness (increased work capacity across broad time and modal domains, which is not at all from Dynamax). I get that you don't understand the enormous benefit and implications of this definition. In your eyes, there is nothing new because that's what everyone always meant about when they say fitness.

That may be true today, at least within our community, but that didn't exist before CrossFit. People were not talking about measuring work capacity across broad time and modal domains. Some people were measuring work and power in limited domains specific to their sport, but that is different.

Why is this so significant? Because it is the benchmark around which everyone seeking elite fitness can operate and evaluate their progress. The debate about who is fittest has been around forever. Is the Tour de France winner fitter than the Welterweight Boxing Champion of the World? Before CrossFit's concise and measurable definition, there was no way to reconcile or test either claim.

Furthermore, demonstrating increased work capacity across broad time and modal domains in the gym really does translate into better real world fitness. This has made a tremendous difference for soldiers and first responders around the world, to name just two populations.

The second major contribution was the prescription for achieving the highest levels of fitness (constantly varied functional movements at high intensity). Again, we have seen people doing functional movements at high intensity for a very long time, but the identification of functional movements (as we define them - see articles in the CrossFit Journal for more information) as the primary vehicle by which fitness is achieved has enormous implications. Now everyone can avoid an entire category of movement (non-functional movements), making their fitness efforts that much more efficient and effective.

Combining functional movements specifically to maximize intensity (average power) was never established before CrossFit. People experimented with it in small areas, but this change in the breadth of scope of the experiment is unique and very substantial.

Again, you can look back and see these movements going on forever, and some of you are saying that means CrossFit isn't unique. But there is a huge difference between focused effort with a measurable goal and various types of experimentation. That difference has been improved fitness for the average fitness enthusiast, and the highest levels of elite fitness in history.

Now, we claim that the winners of the CrossFit Games are the fittest man and woman on the planet. There are many who dispute this claim, but as of yet, no one has directly challenged any of our winners. We would be more than willing to set up the competition (and, in fact, this year's Games are one example).

Furthermore, these CrossFit Games are the first of its kind. Just as MMA originally provided a forum for who would win, the boxer or the wrestler (or any martial artist for that matter), the CrossFit Games provide the first forum for any athlete of any background to compete in the sport of fitness. Of course, there is room for someone to say that our Games are actually not the best test of fitness, but then there would be an onus on them to provide a better one. I'm not saying it couldn't happen, but it hasn't happened yet.

The bottom line is that the refinements CrossFit has made in three areas: a concise and measurable definition of fitness, the prescription on how to achieve it, and a forum for how to evaluate it have made a unique and enormous difference in the industry.

38. Jack wrote...

"Of course, there is room for someone to say that our Games are actually not the best test of fitness, but then there would be an onus on them to provide a better one. I'm not saying it couldn't happen, but it hasn't happened yet."

There is one, the Cavazos-Oto GPP Assessment. http://gpp.degreesofclarity.com

And was it necessary to copy and paste your own comments word-for-word from the "Judgement as a Virtue" CF Journal instead of coming up with some newer original thought or the very least something SHORTER?

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