2010 CrossFit Games Finals

Registration Update

Registration will now launch on Wednesday, Dec 23rd, hopefully at 1300 PST.

We are working feverishly behind the scenes to get the registration site ready for you. We're close, and now testing all the various pages and options. Thanks for your patience!

At this point, we're expecting, and able to accommodate, FIVE TIMES the number of athletes that competed in the first level of qualifiers last year. This is an extraordinary accomplishment, and all the Sectional and Regional Directors deserve a ton of recognition for making it happen.

We really want to give everyone interested the opportunity to compete at a Sectional level. If the demand greatly exceeds capacity at a given Sectional, we are prepared to make changes to accommodate the additional athletes. Some Sectionals are not going to allow scaling. This could also include (depending on the situation) a change in location and/or date, switching from a two-day event to two one-day events, etc. We appreciate your flexibility, and of course if any change precluded your participation, there would be full refunds.

We will provide a lot more static information about each event shortly. This will include hotel recommendations, any special arrangements (such as it's an outdoor event, so come prepared), hours, local contact information, etc.

Costs:
Registration fees are going to support the local events, which are being financed by the local affiliates. Any additional support you can provide (volunteering, sponsorships, etc) will make a huge difference. Our unified registration site (the one that will launch on Dec 23) will allow qualifying athletes (and their profile information and performance data) to travel with them to the Regionals and Games. It will also allow us to provide real time, web-based scoring for all events around the world. But the events are all run locally.

One-Day Events
Athletes - $50US (includes one spectator)
Spectators - $25US

Two-Day Events
Athletes - $100US (includes one spectator)
Spectators - $50US

We have set up temporary caps on how many can register. After that an automatic wait-list is created. We will do everything possible to accommodate the wait-lists.

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117 comments on this entry

1. Shane Gibson wrote...

Thanks for the update! When do you expect to make spectator passes/etc available for the games in Aromas? Any cost or information available on that?

2. Jennie Yundt wrote...

Completely unrelated to registration is that SWEET PICTURE. That's my husband wearing the backpack, and there are a few members of the CrossFit Fire Team mingling around!

Oh, and by the way, we're all excited about Sectionals. :-)

3. MattyLo wrote...

...as Brian of Potomac CrossFit requested......BRING BACK THE CROSSFIT FIRE MOHAWKS!!!

4. Eric wrote...

Any word if there will be an additional registration fee for those who qualify for Regionals? Or will there be enough money collected at each Sectional to help fund the Regionals?

5. Linker wrote...

I hope so! The $25 a day for all spectators seems like enough to at least cover the athletes cost for Regionals!

6. Jon M wrote...

The Midwest Sectional in Missouri is a 3 day event. Cost on that one?

7. James L. wrote...

$100 for a two day event? I don't want to sound like a whiner here but that seems a bit steep especially if we're competing at events which have an almost entirely volunteer staff. That's basically the same registration fee you would pay for a major event like a big time triathlon or marathon where they have to pay large professional staff and pay the city to shut down streets and such. It seems like we're basically paying to outfit boxes with a bunch of new equipment.

8. Alex wrote...

$ 50 for a spectator! This is not a competition with professional athletes, it's just a simple Crossfit competition. In national and world championships, that does not even cost that price. Come see professional teams in some places, it's less expensive than that. With this $ 50 for spectator, I hope the athletes who will qualify for the Regionals will be some expenses paid!?

I already made a local competition for $ 20 where spectators paid nothing, there was a buffet for everyone and even prizes to the winners! Crossfit feels larger than it really is! $ 50 honestly!?

9. Jennie Yundt wrote...

Volunteer staff or not, there are a lot of fees associated with hosting something like this. Any affiliate who has hosted a sizeable event at their box knows how much these shindigs can cost. CrossFit HQ isn't trying to get rich from spectator fees, try and have a little more faith than that...

I'm assuming that there is a large fee required to rent the facility, right? Big time professional events can bank on making money from concessions, parking and merchandise, and since this is a one-time thing for a CrossFit sectional, there is probably a lot being invested into it.

10. Joshua Refenes wrote...

Jennie is right. Also keep in mind, some of these events are going to have to be held at completely indoor locations and facilities (my North-Central sectional comes to mind) since mid-February weather isn't conducive to outdoor competition. Therefore, space is limited for both spectators and competitors.

11. Jacob wrote...

Great question about Missouri being a three day event. Will this be broken into three single day events or overlapping two day events or seriously a three day deal??
I'm going no matter what, but money will be tight for my spectators. Can't wait to be humbled!

12. SC wrote...

What would you say ones lifts should be in order to consider entering the Games? Male and female

i.e. whats the minimum your Max Squat/deadlift etc should be?

thanks

13. dan thacker wrote...

I am in St. Louis and a friend of the Midwest host. I don't think there is any intention of having a 3 day event. I am assuming it's listed that way but not sure if that is correct. I don't know if Sectionals are allowed to go 3 days?

14. Cavanaugh wrote...

Any data on the previously mentioned Masters division.

AARP

15. Eric wrote...

http://games2009.crossfit.com/competitors/

If you're anywhere near the numbers listed on the athlete profiles, you should be competing. Even if you're not you may still be competitive at a sectional. Numbers on one lift or WOD aren't enough to judge someone's overall capabilities though. Having a 500lb squat is good but doesn't help much if you run a 10 minute mile, just like having a 7:00 Helen is good but not if your 1RM deadlift is 200lbs.

16. Sean wrote...

While I completely agree that there are many costs to running an event such as this, I do believe $50 for a spectator is a little ridiculous. As someone intending to compete, I don't have a problem paying the $100, but $50 just to watch doesn't seem right to me. Crossfit as a whole is continually trying to expand and get the word out on what us crazy people are doing in these small gyms across the world. In my opinion, Crossfit should be using these competitions as a way to get the word out, and potentially bring in non-members to see what we do and what we train for. There are some incredible performances that will go down at the sectionals and regionals, and I believe many people, affiliate members or not, would love to see some of them. $50 is likely more than enough to prevent many people from coming to check this out.

That's just my opinion though

17. Steve.H wrote...

So if we pay the $100 to compete at the Sectional and qualify to Regional are we expected to pay another $100 to compete?

18. Kizzee wrote...

Agreed. The competitor price is reasonable. But to pay half of that just to watch is alittle much... Something reasonable just to watch should be like $15. (I think I paid $10 or so at the midwest regionals last year when I just showed up to watch.)

19. Jacob wrote...

Demand will drive the price up. It actually is not a bad idea to charge a lot for this since space is limited. This way you ensure serious spectators will be there and the willy nilly gawkers won't take the spaces of family and friends. Of course I would feel the pinch if I wasn't competing

20. Joel B wrote...

The FL state sectional is in west palm beach. This is a 9+ hour drive. The sectionals in Stone Mountain and Birmingham are much closer for those of us in the FL panhandle.
(not to mention that doing anything in West Palm Beach during spring break is incredibly expen$ive.)

Can we compete in any sectional in our region?

21. James L. wrote...

This is a reply to both you Joshua and Jenny, I would just like to say that for the record, I have a degree in Recreation, Parks and Tourism Administration as well as almost a decade worth of professional experience facilitating sporting events of this nature. I helped to run the Vail Budweiser Pro Mountain Bike series, several pro/am trail running series, various public and private rec centers, organized soccer, rugby and lacrosse tournaments and have been on the administrative staff for the UCI Mountain Bike and Trials World Championships. I know very well what kind of costs are incurred in staging these events and if you have competitors paying $100 and spectators $50 for a two day event as small and low cost as a sectional then you are making A LOT of money. Staging an event like the world mountain bike trials or the LA marathon costs millions of dollars and requires a massive staff to deal with the logistics of securing permits, insurance, concessions, sponsors, TV deals, facilities, merchandise, timing, route planning, construction, etc.
Now, last year's Crossfit Games appeared to be very well run, they nailed everything as far as I could tell but, as far as events go, it wasn't that big and it probably didn't cost that much to facilitate (relatively speaking, I wouldn't want to pay it out of pocket!.) It was a weekend event with a rented jumbo tron on private (essentially owner owned facilities) with basic chip timing for one event, 150 athletes and about 3,000 spectators, a couple paid people and a lot of volunteers. Well, I have run sports tournaments and races bigger than that plenty of times at less cost per athlete and at no charge to spectators.
Now, having said that, if Crossfit wants to charge those rates, hey, that's their prerogative. This is America and they're a business. I just think it would be nice if they didn't squeeze us quite so hard.

22. Mick Shaw wrote...

Hi All,

I know it seems a little expenses, and I understand that $50 can be a lot of cash to put up to watch a sport we all love and enjoy.

But if you volunteer to help the running of your local event you will be right there amongst the atmosphere and it will not cost you anything.

I am running the Australian Qualifier and I can tell you with 140 Athletes and 400 spectators we will not cover our costs by a long way. Yes we are doing our best to get some sponsors on board to assist with these expenses.

We are doing our best so that spectators and athletes fell it was an experience worth investing in.

I hope this is will be a great experience for you and your community.

Mick Shaw

23. Tim wrote...

Any further information coming soon on the Master's competition? I really want to register as soon as I can, just not sure if its a one or two day event. Any insights would be much appreciated.

24. Beth B. wrote...

I'm a little disappointed that there will be a $50 fee for spectators. I know a lot of people that would like to watch me compete that now won't be able to (like my parents, who couldn't volunteer to avoid the cost). I'll be paying to compete, seems like $100 times 300-400 competitors will be plenty of money to support the event. $10 to watch seems a little more reasonable. Charging spectators so much just doesn't seem very crossfit....

25. ES wrote...

I love CrossFit and I am totally excited about this year's qualifiers. Having been involved in other competitive sports, I feel that the competitor's entry fees are very reasonable. I used to pay $120+ for a one-day event that was a competition on a national level and was equipment and personnel intensive. Spectators, however, have always been free (with one exception, when the tournament was held at Walt Disney World they charged spectators $25 and the membership was very unhappy). I can see those kind of prices for the Games, but I don't think it is fair for qualifying events. Now I am not advocating spectators to be totally free necessarily, but IMHO $50 is just too much. I have a few family members that would love to see me compete this year, but I can't ask them to pay $100-$150 extra.

26. Jesse wrote...

Mick - I'm not sure what your situation is that would be so expensive that $34,000 for a 2 day event won't cover your expenses.

I understand things may be very different over there, I don't know, but with some good planning, we figure we could hold sectionals for about $9,000 and completely cover costs for 2 days.

So while it may be needed for you to cover costs there (I have no knowledge of your situation) it certanly is excesive here in the mid U.S.

$50 a spectator is rediculous, especially for something that is so badly needed for our communities. Here's a great way to bring in people who otherwise may never would have seen it or been motivated to try Crossfit. Just as Sean above wrote, this will turn the VAST majority of non-hardcore crossfitters or crossfit fans away. That's sad.

27. Darren wrote...

50 bucks for a regional spectator is unreal. That is just plain wrong. Turning this thing into something is isn't yet. Crossfit should be for all people not just those that can afford it.

28. Ericlee wrote...

Since the price is so high for spectators, why don't they fix it by saying that each competitor can have two or maybe three spectators free of charge.

29. Ryan DeBell wrote...

I am a poor graduate student and I definitely can't afford to pay $100 to compete even though I have been training for a long time for this. Why is it so expensive to run these events? Can someone with knowledge break down the costs/cash flow?

Thanks

:(

30. scott schactler wrote...

I know atleast 10 people(firebreathers) that were considering doing the sectionals and will not if that is how much it is going to cost. Dear crossfit, please dont think we are that retarded that we think your arent trying to fleece the flock here.

31. Darren Coughlan wrote...

Gday All,
Some peoples attitude to the Sectional, Regional and Games have disappointed me. I've been a competitive athlete my whole sporting life and have been lucky to earn some cash from it.

I'd like to get my opinion across to help give people some perspective.

First, CrossFit IS for everyone. That is proven by the FREE workout posted everyday, exercise description videos and the huge amount of information in the CrossFit Journal for $25 a year.

Second, The sectional[s] are for those that can make the commitment to it, both financially and time-wise to get there and compete.

Key word here is COMPETE. These are not workouts, they are 'events'. Taking place in a 'sporting' environment to determine a winner and subsequent placings.

A lot of people need to drop the sense of entitlement about the whole thing.

If you want to compete and can afford [the cheap in my opinion] entry fee that's great! If you want to bring a spectator for free, go for it, bringing a second is virtually $25 each if you think about it.

Now if you cant afford the entry fee/travel whatever, then bad luck.

There have been alot of local affiliate game days all over the world that provide a 'competitive' atmosphere outside of official HQ events. Go to those, enjoy it, meet people, see different boxes and learn from it.

Remember people, if you miss out for some reason, there's always next time. Until then train using the FREE workouts, learn from the huge amount of information that HQ provide and support those that are competing and representing their affiliates.

32. John "Mac" McGriff wrote...

Let me beat this almost dead horse. Really, take a second & put yourself in the shoes of non-Crossfitter(you remember the days). Your Crossfit friend is begging you to go to the Sectionals with them & "just watch". Your straddling the fence on to go or not & then they tell you it's $50. NO WAY!!!!...in these tough economic times...I'm greatly disappointed. These events are chances for our sport to "spread the word" to the masses...don't hinder this chance with greed. Merry Christmas, Happy New Year...blah-blah

33. NP wrote...

@ #31- I completely agree 100 bucks to compete is not totally unreasonable- you definitely only want someone serious about competing there- not every joe-schmoe who wants to!

But 50 bucks to spectate is definitely on the high side!
Oh well... life goes on.. I'll be there..

34. Alex wrote...

I agree that the competitor fees seem more than fair.

50 dollars seems really high for spectators, however. I know that space will be an issue at many of these sectionals, so I kinda get that they need to squeeze as much juice out of the limited amount of people as possible. I guess it worked, I'll definitely be asking many less people to watch me workout if its 50 bucks apiece.

35. Alex wrote...

Oh also, would there possibly be single day passes offered for multi day events? That would definitely alleviate some of the costs for a lot of spectators, also would allow maybe more family and non-crossfitters to experience watching the first day, and maybe more random crossfitters to watch the 2nd day when the competition may be more more fierce?

36. Jason wrote...

What's the age cut-off for the spectator fee? Will my 2-yr-old daughter be considered an extra "spectator?" $100 for me and my wife is a little pricey, but I'm fine with it. However, I might be a little frustrated if I have to pay and extra $50 to have my daughter with us.

37. smart wrote...

no one who is serious about making the games should have a problem with any of the fees. i am sure there are a lot of people that would go 'just to see how they would do' and the people that run the games do not want those people. they only want people who have a legitimate shot of making it. if you really want to compete against other people for free and have people watch, load up a van and go to another box on any other saturday. leave these competitions to the 'professionals'.

38. Kizzee wrote...

Smart... It seems like most of the people are fine with the competitors fee... its the spectators fee everyone has a problem with... I was going to go watch at one of the sectionals or atleast the regionals .. but i wont for $50..

39. Chelsea wrote...

Hey just a suggestion to Ryan and Scott especially. I don't know if you guys workout at an affiliate, or have one near you, but the owner of my gym often will split a registration fee with the athlete to make sure they can afford to compete.

40. Eric wrote...

I've got a feeling the market will sort things out...if we get up to a month before the sectionals and each one only has a handful of registered spectators, the price will probably drop and anyone who already paid the $50 fee will get a partial refund. At least that's what I'd like to think will happen.

That would make sense from the standpoint of getting more people involved and for financial reasons...having 300 spectators at $25 per is more money than having 100 at $50 per. Granted, more spectators creates a need for a little more overhead costs, but that's easily covered with the additional income.

41. Leo wrote...

To smart...(calling yourself smart is sarcasm, right?).... charging $50 to spectators it's just TOO EXPENSIVE. I mean, these events are not at a big stadium so people with no relation to CF would attend if they don't have anything better to do. They are family and friends, people you care about and you would like them to be with you at such an important event. Your disregard to spectators shows your egocentrism or that you're really alone.

42. Jason Lyons CrossFit KoP wrote...

I think it is important to understand the value behind the dollar figure. I do not remember if there was a cost to be a spectator at the Regional Qualifiers last year in VA Beach but that is exactly the point. If there was, I do not even remember it because I had one of the best times of my life. Not only are you humbled by the level of athlete out there, you meet new friends, expand your network, cheer for some of your best friends, and for some, you can learn a TREMENDOUS amount about your programming and coaching style. For a box owner, these things are worth far more than the cost of admission. A movie in King of Prussia costs $10.75 for one with a nice healthy popcorn at $7.25 and a drink at $6.50. So, if you and a date go to a 1.5 hour movie, you are shelling out $41.75. For a few more dollars, you get a whole day worth of events from which you will take away a LOT more. Unfortunately, these things cost money to run and not everything is given for free. If you suppose that 100 athletes come and bring their one person plus another 200 spectators which to me seems a big high, you are looking at $10k in revenue. You would be surprised on how quickly it disappears.

43. Dann wrote...

totally agree, this is complete crap. My family was going to come watch me but at $25-50...no way. I could even see $10 would be reasonable. I am so unbelieveably mad right now...

44. smart wrote...

looking at the map, it looks like most people are going to travel and find a hotel to stay at. what is an extra $50 to the person in hawaii that has to go to california for their regional? and do you really have to be present to show support? do i need to fly to iraq to show our troops that i support them?

45. smart wrote...

ps...its lonely at the top

46. Dann wrote...

What's an extra $50!?! Holy crap man, can you adopt me!? Do you know what an extra $50 can do for a family of 4?!...must be nice

47. Heath Powell wrote...

Oh man. Its going to get HUGE this year. I think the price may be justified if you are to only pay once all the way threw the finals. If I'm reading it right do you just pay one time and get as far in the comp as you can?

48. Eric wrote...

Or not so much that, but $50 FOR a family of 4....$200 to go watch sectionals?

49. cash moneyz wrote...

To claim operating expenses on this one is high comedy. So are some of the appologists on this site. Straight cash grab, good on them since you folks are eager to pay up.

50. Leo wrote...

You just confirmed my point...I rest my case.

51. smart wrote...

2-3 meals at mcdonalds?

if you can't make it because of cost, why not take your reasonable $10 and help support your athlete by subsidizing their travel or hotel arrangements? i am sure there will be up to the minute updates on everything. maybe even video.

52. smart wrote...

as an athlete, it would mean more to me to know that someone paid $50 to watch me compete. does it suck that not everyone can come watch? sure. but if you think that anyone that is competing will have a better time because someone is there, i think you are wrong.

53. clint wrote...

Hey I was wondering about children as spectator, I don't mind paying for my wife, but I have two children five and four, is the price the same for them.

54. Ashleigh Moe wrote...

I agree with you!!! Competitors should at least get a couple of spectator passes so their family doesn't have to pay to support them!!!

55. Jesse Gray wrote...

$100 for a two day event as a competitor? A little much given the cost of putting on an event like this but not too unreasonable. $50 for a spectator? You are out of your mind.

The overhead for putting on a high school football game is way more than running a Crossfit event. You rarely see more than $5 charged at the gates there. For $50 you'd better be giving away t-shirts and gift bags and even then, it's not fair because you're basically saying "welcome to the party, please remember there is a one T-shirt minimum!" I mean seriously, this is like trying to charge people who want to watch a kid's soccer tournament! Absolutely silly!

56. Craig B wrote...

Jason -

I'm not buying what your selling. The reason you don't remember the spectator cost of the Mid-Atlantic qualifiers earlier this year is because there wasn't one.

I find it appalling that I may have to pay an extra $150 on top of my competitor fees if I want to have my wife and children there to cheer me on. And what are they going to get for that $50 each? There better be stadium seating, more than enough facilities vice just random port-a-lets that are not emptied once they are dropped off for $50.

57. Chris wrote...

I hope I have enough left for a $47 "sectionals" t-shirt, too. Maybe a $38 program.

Chris

58. Andrew Gray wrote...

$50 for spectators is ridiculous. CF is welcome to charge what they want but I think this is a huge mistake, I don't think there is demand to support that kind of fee. As a competitor I want a large crowd out to watch, cheering everyone on, instead I suspect the crowds will be quite small. I had planned on getting a bunch of people to come watch and see what CF is all about, now I'm telling all my friends to save their money.

59. adam wrote...

Wow, there's a lot of whiners out there! I think it will be great if there aren't a lot of spectators there. It would limit the costs for hosting a huge amount of people. Also, in regards to some of the venues, there may be an issue with accomodating people's needs such as bathroom facilities, food, water, trash, permits, seating, space, etc. So if you dont want to come, good. If you dont want to compete, less competition for me!

Also, I really don't think anyone should be speaking about the costs of organizing an event like this unless you have done it. Do you have any idea how much it costs to order a large amount of equipment to accomodate at least 100 athletes competing over two days? Or how about finding a venue large enough to accomodate that many people? Especially if your box isn't large enough to do so.

This isn't a run with some water stations, or a bike course through the mountains. It's boxes (gyms), bumper plates, barbells, med balls, boxes, rowers, pull up bars, rings, collars, dumbells, jump ropes, ropes, racks, benches, and f'n chalk buckets with relatively no sponsorship from a major organization like you would see at a sponsored run event, bike race, or triathlon. That stuff aint cheap people!
You dont have to reserve the ocean, or rent a moutain trail. That shits there already! Maybe permits are required at the most, but renting a stadium? Or a police training facility? Or an arena? Even parks can be expensive!
Oh and good luck explaing what a 155lb clean and jerk dropped from overhead is going to do to someone's facilities.

Quit whining. If you want it bad enough you'll find a way. Those are the people I want to compete with.

60. Cavanaugh wrote...

Masters division, dollar amount, who cares. Just give me a chance to see how I measure up. Do I have what it takes? I would not let this slip by for anything.
CAV

61. Shawn wrote...

Adam,

Calling people with families and real responsibilities whiners because they're thinking about their financial situations makes you sound like a complete idiot, an asshole, and a child. Nicely done. The idiot apologists on this site are getting more and more out of hand. The truth is until people can actually make a decent income JUST from competing in Crossfit, they will always have to have other responsibilites going on while training. People who keep saying "Oh if you want it bad enough, you'll find a way" sound completely foolish.

It is obvious that their is some money grubbing going on here, I'm just surprised it took so long for people to notice. Seems all that revenue collected from the certs should have been a giveaway.

62. Rossco wrote...

What can $50 do?
I have a family of 4, single income (so wife can raise our kids) close to 100K. Live within our means.

$50 buys 1 week of Zone/Paleo veggies for me, two weeks for the wife and kids

$50 diesel@ 2.65 gal= 18.8 gal @23 mpg= 354 miles @ 70 miles a day commute = 5 days of commuting (think I did the math right)

$50= 18 Months of funtional fitness. KB go for $.79 lb at a local Sporting goods store, you get 60 lbs for $50. KB and a park swingset got it done.

$50 is not a trivial amount for most families. That being said.....

If you ask 100 CrossFitters what Crossfit is 80 will comeback with "A community......." not "A HQ element surrounded by......."

I have been part of plenty of communities who disagreed with policy decisions made by the leadership structure. Being a community of like minded people is what gives CF strength. This community has grown so large that HQ cannot realistically control it, and influence only exists to the extent the community allows it.

Strong communities turn inward during adversity, they look to themselves for strength and direction. If you don't like the prices HQ is charging, come together as a community and solve the problem.
-Someone mentioned sponsoring an athlete and her/his family. I will throw in $20 bucks to an athlete who needs it so their family can accompany them to the regionals/games. Seriously, when you see me at the sectionals (VA), ask and I will kick it in. I know there are many more out there willing to do this.

-CrossFit XX has 50 members. Everyone throws in $10, buy 10 tickets, have a drawing, give a few to perspective crossfitters so they can sip a little cool-aid. Work a deal with the hotel to get a block of rooms at a discount.

-I know airline employees can get a few at-cost standby tickets. Airline employee CrossFitters, chip in a buddy-pass for an athlete and his family.

-Help your affiliate to host the first Annual CF invitattional/XX State CF Championsips. Set a budget of $9K (seen above), let the athletes come for free, charge spectators 2 bucks.
Whatever, figure it out. If you don't like it change it, create something better.

I do plan to compete at the sectionals, but my family probably won't be there.

63. Rossco wrote...

What can $50 do?
I have a family of 4, single income (so wife can raise our kids) close to 100K. Live within our means.

$50 buys 1 week of Zone/Paleo veggies for me, two weeks for the wife and kids

$50 diesel@ 2.65 gal= 18.8 gal @23 mpg= 354 miles @ 70 miles a day commute = 5 days of commuting (think I did the math right)

$50= 18 Months of funtional fitness. KB go for $.79 lb at a local Sporting goods store, you get 60 lbs for $50. KB and a park swingset got it done.

$50 is not a trivial amount for most families. That being said.....

If you ask 100 CrossFitters what Crossfit is 80 will comeback with "A community......." not "A HQ element surrounded by......."

I have been part of plenty of communities who disagreed with policy decisions made by the leadership structure. Being a community of like minded people is what gives CF strength. This community has grown so large that HQ cannot realistically control it, and influence only exists to the extent the community allows it.

Strong communities turn inward during adversity, they look to themselves for strength and direction. If you don't like the prices HQ is charging, come together as a community and solve the problem.
-Someone mentioned sponsoring an athlete and her/his family. I will throw in $20 bucks to an athlete who needs it so their family can accompany them to the regionals/games. Seriously, when you see me at the sectionals (VA), ask and I will kick it in. I know there are many more out there willing to do this.

-CrossFit XX has 50 members. Everyone throws in $10, buy 10 tickets, have a drawing, give a few to perspective crossfitters so they can sip a little cool-aid. Work a deal with the hotel to get a block of rooms at a discount.

-I know airline employees can get a few at-cost standby tickets. Airline employee CrossFitters, chip in a buddy-pass for an athlete and his family.

-Help your affiliate to host the first Annual CF invitattional/XX State CF Championsips. Set a budget of $9K (seen above), let the athletes come for free, charge spectators 2 bucks.
Whatever, figure it out. If you don't like it change it, create something better.

I do plan to compete at the sectionals, but my family probably won't be there.

64. Grady wrote...

Are you serious? You're making yourself look like a fool. Do you seriously think the organizers of triathlons just tell people to go swim in the ocean? You realize all the beaches in California are either privately owned or are a park owned by the city, state, federal gov and you have to pay huge facilities fees to use them with that many people in addition to hiring life guards. As for mountains, do you really think there are just a bunch of free mountain trails for people to race on? Really? How about the LA marathon, guess where the start of that is? Dodger Stadium, that's where. Do you think Frank McCourt (owner of the Dodgers) just said "Oh, you want to have a race? why don't you use my stadium as a start area!"

Well good luck on your hopes of doing well because better athletes can't afford to compete and having no one there to watch you.

65. silverback wrote...

I hope I get a keychain......

66. Jacob wrote...

Here is an idea my friends have tossed around. For every two that want to watch, one will enter as a competitor and bring the other (splitting the cost). That way they are guaranteed a spot. And why not have something to do while there. Sure it will take up spots but if you're paying 50 bucks you might as well get something out of it. The sectionals could see a lot of competitors that shouldn't be there. Awesome idea!

67. Mike wrote...

Spectator fees makes me sick. This is not a professional football game. Crossfit is growing I get that. But this is ridiculos. It feels like Crossfit inc is putting us over a barrel because they know we will pay it. Not right at all. If all the money goes to running the event then cool. But if any money goes back to the HQ I might throw up. Thanks for the free workouts, but look at all those sold out certs for everything from running to basket weaving. At 1000 bucks a pop i think your doing ok. This event should be about promoting Crossfit as a community and finding the Fittest person on the planet that day, not about making a dollar. Save that for all the crossfit shirts you have been trying to get us to buy for each other for Christmas.

68. GW wrote...

Just to voice my opinion. I have no problem with the competitor fees. I myself plan on competing, and while it is a little steep, I have no problem paying for myself. However, the spectator fee is OUT OF THIS WORLD OUTRAGEOUS!! I have family that was planning on coming to watch, as well as many friends that live in the city of our regional who are always wondering what this whole "Crossfit" thing is all about. They've all been getting excited to come watch and support, and possibly even gain enough interest to join a local affiliate. There is NO chance that they are going to come check it out for $50. 5 or 10 bucks, no problem. Hell, if they promise to cheer their ass off, I'd even buy those tickets for them, but the idea of a $50 ticket is just assinine.

69. Stuart wrote...

I must admit that I feel the $50.00 fee is lunacy for spectators. Sell T-shirts. Sell Water. Hell, set up and charge for booths so that the boxes, like CrossFit MPH, are able to promote their services to those who wish to get on the Crossfit rally. But, for god's sake, don't milk those who want to come out and see some local friends giving it. $50.00? Hell, I can watch Ovechkin for that from pretty decent seats.

70. Rochelle wrote...

let's all be positive here. Remember, positvity is contageous just as negativilty is. I am hosting the Midwestern sectionals here in st Charles MO and I have as much information as I can get at this point up on my website. www.crossfit-TNT.com. Please refer to it as it may answer many of ur questions to the Midwestern sectional qualifiers that I am hosting. If u have a question that is not answered, I will post it on my website to let u know. Thanks guys!!

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71. adam wrote...

Ok I was trying to be somewhat humorous before, guess that didn't go over well.
I have been married for 8 years, been an enlisted member of the Navy (jack shit for pay) and have a child on the way, as well as a mortgage, two new cars, a harley (still making payments on) and two really hungry dogs. Im going to find a way. Beg borrow or steal, I will be there.

All I am saying is that there are a lot more fees to include ordering gear and everything else I listed before, as opposed to local marathons, tris, and races.
If you have organized an event, crossfit or otherwise, and you know from experience, then speak on the subject. If not, quit speculating.

Oh, and the LA Marathon is $125 to register for.
http://www.lamarathon.com/

Good luck to all the competitors!

72. Grady wrote...

I know how much the LA marathon is, that's why I referenced it. The reason it costs that much is they have to rent Dodger stadium, close down 26.2 miles of Los Angeles streets for the day, the Santa Monica Pier, pay police for crowd control, host a convention (at the LA convention center which they also have to rent) the day before, set up water stations every mile or so and provide a serious goodie bag which includes a race T-shirt made of technical material and not to mention HUGE prize money for the top finishers. It's silly. A chip timing system alone costs about what an affiliate will actually have to pay for equipment additions for a sectional. Running a race, even a small local one costs a lot more than running a sectional. I will do a quick breakdown of the expenses a box incurs in running a sectional. Correct me if I'm wrong.
Location, if it's at your box, $0 more than you would pay any other month but for the sake of argument, I looked up the cost of renting a gym capable of holding 500 people (specifically, St. John's university), $1275 per day or $2550 for the weekend.
Equipment: Any box that is hosting a sectional is pretty well established and has lots of equipment already, (I was down at Crossfit Oakland the other weekend for the football cert and they had enough bars and bumpers for at least 25-30 people at once) but, lets say the box needs to order and extra (and I'm being generous here) 10 bars, sets of bumpers (230lb set ok?), rings and 20" boxes to jump on. At Rogue Sports, that order would cost including shipping, around $8300. As for rowers, if you need them, Concept 2 is a pretty big help and every Crossfit event that I've been to has received a ton of help from them, including them lending a ton of rowers for events. Now, other than a DJ or something like that, maybe some catered food for volunteers, there isn't much else you need to pay for, boxes and rental gyms typically have their own insurance and really, you don't need to buy any of the equipment, it's not hard to get a few boxes together to donate equipment so you either get a bunch of new equipment for your box at what works out to be a serious discount our your pool resources and spend $0.

Now, lets look at the income from entry fees alone. Say you have 100 male and 100 female competitors (pretty average estimate, you may have a lot more, you may have a bit less), thats an easy $10,000 right there. Now lets say, you have the worst case scenario and have to buy all that equipment, rent the space, hire a DJ and provide two lunches for 30 volunteers, you're looking at around $15,000 max. If you got 300 spectators you would have to charge them $16.66 each ($8.33 per day) to break even and you would walk away with $8300 worth of equipment for your gym. Not too shabby. Now, on the other hand, what if you do this at your box, give away half the proceeds to other boxes for letting you use their equipment and spend about $3,000 on a DJ and catering. Even if you don't charge spectators a dime, you just made $3,500. Not bad at all and you also got a ton of free publicity for your box in the process. There is just no way it costs that much to hold these events.

73. Jesse wrote...

Adam - You're pretty good at missing the point. Pretty much everyone is fine paying the competitors fee, it's the spectator fee that's rediculous.

"Oh, and the LA Marathon is $125 to register for"

Oh, and the spectator fee is $0
http://www.lamarathon.com/

And Jason Lyons CrossFit KoP, your math a little off. 100 athletes @ $100 and 200 spectators @ $50, is 20K not 10K, close.

Need to hear from someone with background cred Adam? James L. #21 doesn't hold enough cred for you?

$50 a spectator is embarrassing and really a bad business move for Crossfit. At Worlds is one thing where it will prob be more hardcore Crossfit followers, but this is out in our communities, this could be the best marketing tool for Crossfit ever, spreading to the masses that will not in a million years spend $50 to watch something they know nothing about or care about at the time. In the long run it would make HQ way more money to have a lot of non-hardcore crossfit followers there, when they have 3 times the number of people running to their basket weaving certs or nutrition or whatever else they want to "fake certify" for a $1,000. That's one way it sucks, the other is people's friends and family not being able to be there which has been clearly brought up by a number of people above.

And Rochelle, I think this is positive, calling out a wrong and trying to be part of setting things straight when things have cleary lost their way I think is a positive thing. Props to you for hosting and best of luck to you.

Adam, I can't wait to see how you'll miss the point again and reply. Looking forward to it.

74. Jesse wrote...

Smart - "as an athlete, it would mean more to me to know that someone paid $50 to watch me compete"

That may be one of the stupidest things I've ever heard. How insecure do you have to be where wanting people to have to pay more to watch you is what makes you feel better about yourself?

I wonder if Mikko or Khalipa or Spealler or Everett are thinking that during a workout, "oh man am I cool, I hope these people had to pay a lot to watch me, that would make me feel better about myself" I would be willing to bet that that thought hasn't come within a thousand miles of those guys.

I apologize if your comment was meant as a joke and I'm taking it seriously.

75. Greg Keoc wrote...

$50 is laughable, anyone defending that or considering paying that amount needs to do some self reflection.

You can spectate weightlifting, powerlifting, strongman competitions for free, why would you pay $50 to watch CF? It's insulting, but of course people will pay it.

I would consider volunteering at a sectional to help out, but not when they are charging that kind of money for spectators.

76. adam wrote...

I get your point; spectator fee is too much. My point is, suck it up. So far, Grady is the only person who has submitted a substantial solution.
Has anyone considered how many spectators would flood one sectional if it were free?

Grady, that is a great solution, but I just want to address something. You said:
"I know how much the LA marathon is, that's why I referenced it. The reason it costs that much is they have to rent Dodger stadium, close down 26.2 miles of Los Angeles streets for the day, the Santa Monica Pier, pay police for crowd control, host a convention (at the LA convention center which they also have to rent) the day before, set up water stations every mile or so and provide a serious goodie bag which includes a race T-shirt made of technical material and not to mention HUGE prize money for the top finishers. It's silly. A chip timing system alone costs about what an affiliate will actually have to pay for equipment additions for a sectional. Running a race, even a small local one costs a lot more than running a sectional. I will do a quick breakdown of the expenses a box incurs in running a sectional."

Im asking because I don't know, but how many sponsors does the LA Marathon cater to? Do they have to pay to plug their products? I think they have been doing it since 1986, and how many sponsors have they accumulated in that time? Do they have a pool of money to pull from? How many charities advertise on their website?
They have roughly 1,000,000 spectators. How much revenue would that bring in to a city? Pretty sure they are getting a smoking deal on Dodger Stadium, and Im guessing the city is cutting them a break as well.
Even if you look at this on a smaller scale, a Thanksgiving day 10k or whatever, there are still many more charities and sponsors involved than CrossFit has seen so far.
The marathons pay out silly amounts of money because they have the money to do so.
It costs about $6,000 (being generous here) to hire police for crowd control.
If you look at the 2009 stats for the marathon, 565 people competed which comes out to $70,625.
That's just the marathon!!! They have a 5k, wheelchair, handcrank and racewalk category as well. No wonder they don't charge spectators!

You are comparing all CrossFit gyms to CF Oakland and not all gyms have nearly that much equipment. Ask the coordinators of the 2009 Regional Qualifiers how much they spent organizing, and even after HQ gave them money, if they were able to cover all of the fees. The answer is no, and they had far less people than the Sectionals are projected to have.

Jesse:
Is this positive? "...when they have 3 times the number of people running to their basket weaving certs or nutrition or whatever else they want to "fake certify" for a $1,000."

Would you consider, Brian MacKenzie, Coach B, or John Welbourne basket weavers? I wouldn't say that to any of their faces and Im guessing you wouldn't either.

Why do you feel it necessary to make personal attacks towards myself and or HQ? I think you need to chill, and realize that this might be how an organization of this caliber is able to grow to the point where it may one day "rent out" Dodger stadium.
I challenge you to contribute a legitimate solution Jesse; no more trash.

77. Tom wrote...

Very disappointed in the cost for spectators. You can buy a NFL or MLB ticket for this amount. As a box owner, many of our clients and their families who have no intention of competing truly want to go and watch these events. It has been fun to watch our people get excited talking about going to watch the sectionals and regionals. This cost will most definitely discourage that. Most of our members have kids, to expect them to shell out $100 to $200 to watch is unreasonable! That's a month of unlimited dues! AND I assume this price will be repeated at the Regionals?

If CF is trying to reach more people and showcase functional fitness and the community at large this is a large deterrent. I competed last year, I paid far less, and had my wife, daughter and friends in attendance. I can tell you it was one of my best memories to be mid-wod to see my wife and hear my 3 1/2 year old at the time yelling for me to go faster. Will I find a way to pay it for myself and my family? Likely yes, but anyone who thinks everyone can and will do it is naive at best.

Two questions that I would love answered:
1. What is the cost and age cut-off for kids?
If registration starts tomorrow I need to know that. Last year my child was free. My wife paid $10. Do I need to buy a ticket for my daughter this year?

2. What is the expected cost for parking or is it included? Our qualifier is at the State Fairgrounds so I assume there will be a parking charge. Another cost to factor in if not included.

78. Jesse wrote...

A legitimate solution...charge spectators $10 instead of $50.

It's not like there is a huge dilema here, it comes down to how much HQ is trying profit from this. There's some people with some pretty substantial cred above saying that it is beyond rediculous to charge $50 a spectator and by doing so goes way beyond what it takes to cover cost at an event like this.

I did speak to someone who helped organize a regional last year, and they had no problem covering their cost without charging a spectator a dime.

Neither Brian MacKenzie, Coach B, or John Welbourne teach basket weaving or nutrition so they don't fall under my reference.

But you're right, not a positive comment, I apologize.

Would people flood a sectional if it were free? No one knows. Crossfit is growing fast, and it is bigger than last year, but at the regional i was at, flooding crowds was definitely not a problem or even close to it. One can only hope people would flood to the event.

For people who aren't into Crossfit, its not a matter of "sucking it up", they just won't go because they don't care enough because they've never seen it. And to families that just simply can't afford it, "suck it up" is a personal bash to each one of them. Does that fall under "trash"?

Adam, do you truly believe that they need to charge $50 a spectator just to cover costs?

79. Jeff wrote...

Dodger stadium - A Crossfit Box

Very similar - my generation would say WHATEVER

Comparing the LA marathon to a Crossfit sectional qualifier is kind of crazy. Everyone in the world knows about Dodger stadium, I doubt anyone knows about your local box.

Plus sponsor will bend over backward to help out at the LA Marathon. Not so much for an athletic event in a box. It cost money to run one of these events, there are cost that you do not even think about, T-Shirts, wristbands, etc. Plus, the host affiliate should get some compensation for hosting the event. A lot of their time and effort is put into hosting something like this.

Jesse - You are being negative. Stop it! If you don't want to pay the 50 dollars don't go, more room for my friends to cheer me on.

80. Andi wrote...

I was a spectator at the 09 regionals and enjoyed every minute of it. This year I would like to compete and I am totally fine with the entry fee for competitors. I have a HUGE problem with the spectator fee. I would like as many people I know to come down and watch and encourage them to be a part of this wonderful event but I cannot bring myself to ask them to pay a whopping $50pp! Some entry fee yes, but come on, isn't the idea to get the word out there to everyone not just the wealthy?
You say that if you want to enjoy the day for free to volonteer. So we are paying $34,000 for volenteers? I understand there are costs involved, especially if a venue like a racecourse is chosen.
I would rather pay $150 to compete and have people there to support me then have them pay an enormous entry fee to watch.

81. NP wrote...

Seems wrong that a 1 competitor+ 1 spectator pay the same as 2 spectators... but that's just me..

82. Craig wrote...

$50 for a spectator is ludicrous. I hope the intention behind the price was to severely limit the number of spectators, because that's what it will do for sure.

83. craig glover wrote...

Adam

"Oh and good luck explaing what a 155lb clean and jerk dropped from overhead is going to do to someone's facilities."

one would imagine that such an insignicant weight will cause next to no damage to a facility. You have made the classic mistake of thinking that crossfit lbs are the same as kilos that are actually used in competition

84. Loren wrote...

Guys I just figured it out... we can all agree that $50 is crazy for a specatator to pay, right?

I AM POSITIVE THAT IT IS A TYPO, THEY ADDED THE EXTRA ZERO FROM $5 ON ACCIDENT! There is no way I will ask my friends and family to pay $50 to come support Crossfit at a "Sectional Qualifier" that to be honest is no nicer than a high school wrestling tournament that I might have paid $4 to watch.

85. Sten wrote...

The Arnold costs $10 a day for all events. Will we have to pay another $50 on top of that just to see the Sectionals?

86. Todd wrote...

I won't be competing because of the cost. I do this for the community. Not one of my crossfit supporters can stomach paying that much. I won't go alone.

87. A NON wrote...

Can someone from HQ speak and legitimize the $50 spectator fee?....or clarify that it's a typo?...

88. Where's HQ??? wrote...

HQ, especially Tony, is always so great about responding to peoples questions and comments on here. This thread has over 80 comments, but not one word or any response from the top. It would be nice to know how these fee's are justified (not that there's a logical explanation) so that from the outside it doesn't look like such an obvious money grab. I strongly believe that Crossfit, despite what everyone likes to think, is a privately run organization that can do whatever it wants, however it wants, and for whatever reason. Just like any other business. But it would be nice to know that the voices of all those that dedicate their lives to this craft are heard in some instances.

89. Shawn B wrote...

I don't like the fee. However, I like the fact that CrossFit makes it very accessible to their program by writing free workouts for us every day and making becoming an affiliate fairly affordable for folks starting out.

I will be competing at Sectionals. If I qualify, for Regionals, and long shot Nationals... I probably will not be able to afford doing all of those different events and bringing loved ones for support.

That being said, i am guessing there are others in my situation.

The decision to compete or not compete now comes down to cost.

That just doesn't seem right to me.

That's my two cents.

90. Sean wrote...

#35, Alex
I think a single day pass would be a great idea, no matter how much they like me, friends and family would have a tough time spending two full days in a gym watching people workout. But if they could go for just one day, at a reduced rate of course, they may be more inclined to come check this out.

91. Jesse wrote...

It's not about being negative or positive, I don't think that has anything to do with it, its about calling out BS when you see it. I'm just echoing what %99 of evry other poster on here is saying, that makes me negative?

I think it has more to do with looking past yourself, I'm glad all your friends can and will happily pay $50 a pop, unfortunately many people don't have the luxury of being able to do that, you have to be able to look past yourself and your own inner circle to understand that.

92. Coastal Boy wrote...

HQ, please figure it out.

People are obviously upset and from your apparent lack of response, you could care less.

This is becoming a community of people who love WHAT you do, but don't love HOW you do it. And that's NEVER a good thing.

HQ?

Hello?

Anyone there?

(crickets, crickets, crickets)

93. pat wrote...

I'm sure the $50 spectator fee is meant to limit the # of people who come.

A $10 fee would bring out countless friends and family (some not familiar with Crossfit) to the event. They would get a chance to see what Crossfit is all about and would want to begin Crossfitting.

How do I know this? My father, brother and fiance came to watch me compete at Regionals last year. They all now Crossfit. The sectionals/regionals would be a great way to attract more potential clients, but if the spectator fee is $50, I know that less of my friends and family (and potential Crossfitters)will come.

94. adam wrote...

Craig, I think you are assuming that every gym has lifting platforms that can absorb a large load being dropped (from overhead or not) on them. You are also assuming that these gyms have enough platforms for every competitor in each heat; roughly 10-20 athletes at a time. You are a also assuming that these events will be held at a CF Box.
Lets take a very high profile Regional Qualifier for instance. 155lb C&J on sand, in what a Sherrif's Academy uses as part of it's agility training course. There were mortar round size holes out there! I believe there were close to 100 athletes total that participated in that workout. There will be 200 at an average sectional this year.
Also, lifting competitions normally dont use bumper plates. I've seen people gassed to the point during Fran or Grace, drop a bar and put fist size holes through walls.
My point was, that when you are trying to sell CrossFit to a stadium or facility other than a box, that has no idea what CrossFit is, it can sound like a huge liability. You have to be really tactful, and sometimes that still isn't enough to obtain a venue.

I wanted to comment on something else that was said:
"You can spectate at weightlifting, powerlifting, strongman competitions for free, why would you pay $50 to watch CF? It's insulting, but of course people will pay it."

Im not sure why this is insulting. Let's take lifting competitions for instance. You are only viewing a sliver of the exercises that would be viewed at a Sectional, Regional and Games competition. This isn't arrogance, it's fact. What about the rowing, gymnastics, bodyweight, endurance, and sometimes creative torture techniques that athletes will endure during one of our competitions. So if you would fly to Malta in 2009 to watch the Strongman Competition, you wouldn't spend $25-$50 to support a local affiliate and that region's athletes?

Here is Steve Serrano's write up of the SoCal Qually for 2009 and the planning that took place.
http://games2009.crossfit.com/regionals/the-story-of-socal.html
All of the gear that was acquired for the 2 day competition was free of charge thanks to Ahmik Jones and Rogue. That gear was then sold off to people who could purchase the equipment at a discounted rate.
What Steve didn't tell you was that even after HQ donated money to help with the overall cost of the competition
the event coordinators ended up paying a little over $1,000 out of pocket after everything was said and done, to cover the competition costs. There were 100 competitors (maybe). and if I remember correctly, close to 300 spectators per day, 600 total. This year's San Diego/Arizona Sectional is slated to have 200 competitors and probably closer to 500 spectators per day.

I think there is a lot more planning, coordination, and money being spent to host these events than most people realize.
If you register as a competitor, dont you get to bring a spectator for free? That means if one gym sends 5 people to compete, 5 can watch for free. If those people were to split a spectator fee with someone else, they would only pay $25. And that is for the 2 day events. 1 day event fee split by 2 people comes out to $12.50

2 day event:
Dad competes = $100
Mom gets in free
2 friends/kids=$100.
$200 for 4 people at a two day event is not unreasonable.

1 day event:
Dad = 50
Mom = free
2 friends/kids=$50
$100 total.

95. Jim wrote...

I must agree with the premise that fees are rare in CrossFit outside the box membership. Crossfit.com and the Journal are amazing resources that cost almost nothing. Not to mention the wealth of information on all affiliates websites that is FREE as well.

Fees associated with Certs and events are a bit high when viewed as a stand alone events. The context of information\expertise that these events draw upon and resources required for sustaining excellence does have a price.

The market will bear these prices and the VALUE is evident to those who participate in the community. Unfortunately, not everyone can afford this part of CrossFit. It's too bad, but a reality. Box membership and training fees are not cheap either....but the markets will bear the price and people will buy the tix. It's really a matter of priorities just like your training fees.

Finally, I understand the the games will be streamed live this year. Not very cheap when pushing to so many viewers. I don't believe any additional fees will be associated with this access to the games either. (other than maybe the Journal Subscription) Amazing access for the community as a whole.

96. Ralph HIcks wrote...

Give HQ a break, I'm sure they're a little busy with trying to get the sectional registration site up and running bug free.

I can understand why the Arnold sectional would be a bit pricey.

They're probably trying to keep it as pure as possible in terms of (if it's worth the $ to you then you'll pay it and enjoy it).

It would be nice if everyone could watch, I know I have a gym full of people who would love to watch it and a number probably wont because of the cost.....?

It is what it is, guess I'll just have to compete and get my wife a free ticket :)

97. MARKO wrote...

There is no justification for a $50 dollar spectator fee. I realize that anyone reading this thread is a Crossfitter and in their world Crossfit means something.

However, to most people Crossfit is still a foreign word. To our friends and family it is still something they've heard a little about through our involvement.

$50 FOR WHAT????

Get some perspective....

These aren't professional athletes. You can't seriously think its fair to charge someone $50 dollars to watch a group of people work out.

No matter how important it is to all of us....

To spectators that don't Crossfit this is just watching people workout. However, if it was $50 dollars they may come out and actually learn to see the sport inside of Crossfit.

98. Marko wrote...

I meant to say:

If it WASN'T $50 dollars we might get people out to see the sport inside of Crossfit.

Also....Keep in mind this is sectionals and our best and brightest will not even be involved with this level of competition. They have a free pass to the regionals.

99. Jeff wrote...

I think you need to take a look in the mirror.

My family and I are not rich by any means in fact the majority of the people I know that are CrossFitters are your average hard working blue collar worker. If you are true die hard CrossFitter then I guess you know what sacrifice is. Eating the right foods, working out, getting enough rest. I guess the Crossfitters, like myself, that wish to compete or watch will have to sacrifice something to go up against and watch the best athletes in the world compete for 25,000 dollars.

Plus, the reason that 99% of the post here are negative is because they are the only ones posting. If everyone in the CrossFit community was so upset by this then the website would be shut down from entries. Therefore, since the site has about 100 post,(most from the same people) I think the majority of the boxes understand the fees associsted with this event and are willing to pay.

And I think for all the people complaining on here you need to come to that reality.

Oh, had by using the words BS and telling me I need to lookout side by inner circle because you do not agree with me - IS BEING NEGATIVE.

100. fox wrote...

The competitor fee is fine, heck raise it some if need be, but the $50 spectator fee is insane and has to be reconsidered. Half the cost of an entry fee just to come watch part of a sectionals competition open to any amateur? Can they even possibly be serious? There are lots of ways to limit the number of spectators if that is really the issue (one simple idea: how about a fixed number of tickets?). I am extremely disappointed. Perhaps there is some merit to all the dissent we have been hearing lately among the increasing number of former CF pioneers about HQ.

101. mansur mendizabal wrote...

Hi,

My name is Mansur Mendizabal and i would like to register for the central east semi qualifying competition for the 2010 crossfit games. I browsed the entire website and could not find a registry form online. Could you please direct me to the right link or location on the website so that I may register for the regional central east qualifying competition, thanks.

Mansur

102. Alex wrote...

@mansur

"Registration will now launch on Wednesday, Dec 23rd, hopefully at 1300 PST."

As noted above registration has not launched yet, sit tight for about 2 more hours.

103. Beast wrote...

$50 = RIDICULOUS

There is no justification for this amount, none. If you're not from HQ, then stop talking for them. Let them weigh in with how they're going to correct the issue. Because it needs correcting.

How did HQ pick the sites for the sectionals and qualifiers? I hope it's not geographic - as everyone is traveling regardless. I know there are much better venues with better accommodations than some posted here. Please fill us in on the process.

Thoughts HQ?

104. billyboy wrote...

$50 is ridiculous for spectating a sectional event. These are down home local events with familiar faces that people want to see. I know for myself that just about every member of my gym wants to come watch their trainers in action but very few are gunna fork over 50 to watch a small event like this. Whoever is in charge needs to open this up. Make it someting everyone can participate in!

105. Leya wrote...

Add me to the list of competitors who think it's ridiculous to charge friends, family and fellow CrossFitters $25-50 for coming out to watch Sectionals.

I can more than understand an entry fee for competitors. It takes a lot of time and energy on the part of the affiliates to organize these events for us. But financial support for Sectionals shouldn't come out of the pockets of the people who are just coming out to cheer us on.

106. Chris Worden wrote...

$50 is an outrageous sum to charge someone who is just interested in cheering a participant on, completely outrageous.

HQ, you haven't opened registration yet. Push it back another day and change the fee for the spectators.

107. Eric wrote...

The number of people who post to these threads is a tiny tiny percentage of CFers and can't be used to judge the CF community's reaction to the prices. If the Yankees hiked their ticket prices by another 50% next year there would be plenty of opposition to it, but of the several million Yankee fans in the world how many would take to internet message boards to protest it? A very small minority. The others would show their displeasure by not buying tickets.

Of the 100+ members of my gym, I know of 3 who have posted to CF.com, the CFJ, or the message board. Maybe half of the 100 are aware that CF Games occur on an annual basis, but few of them know the specifics of sectionals or regionals. They aren't the ones who are refreshing this page obsessively, waiting for registration to open. But they ARE the ones who would be interested in watching members of their gym compete at sectionals if the spectator cost was $10, especially since our sectional is about 10 minutes from our gym. When we tell them it'll be $50 per ticket, however, they'll find something else to do with their time. There are die-hard CFers who will attend regardless of the cost, but the casual ones will be turned off as soon as they hear $50.

108. Dan wrote...

Anything new is always a bit more in price. More people buy cost go down production goes up, then prices come down, it's the American way. This is the 4th year of the games and only second year for qualifiers. Everyone involved now is a pioneer in this. You will be able to say, I was there when it all began. I helped in forgeing this way of fitness, and you know what? it only cost me $50. Who knows, but eventually more people hear about this ie: The Military is adoupting Crossfit, Police Academy's, Public Schools, more and more media. All this means more sponsor's in the long run, but for now we all have to do what we can to make it grow, and say yes we were there.
I love this place. Merry Christmas & Happy New Year!

109. EricFromOneWorld wrote...

Jesus you guy's, If you are serious about getting to the regional's then 100 for the weekend is nothing. Yes 50 is steep for spectators. If that is a problem then don't invite that many people!

I am sure that it takes a good amount of money to run these thing's, Especially if you want it to run without a hitch?
From renting the place,equipment and yes even the volunteers. I am sure the volunteers need to get paid in some form? maybe lunch? I think it is kind of rude to say "we are spending x amount on for volunteers" without these volunteers we would be in a bad place.

Just suck it up, spend the cash and lets go a good fucking time.

110. Kizzee wrote...

Normally, I would say you were right. However, When I drove up to columbus, OH last year from Nashville just to watch the regionals (I knew nobody in the competition).. I believe all i had to pay was like $10 when i showed up (maybe it was $15)... And there really wasnt as many people there as i had imagined.

111. Jason wrote...

Jesse:

The math is dead on for a one day event in which the athlete pays $50 and the spectator pays $25, just saying since that is the type of event being held in KoP.

112. Ron Fielder wrote...

We have 4 athletes that are going to compete at sectionals but with the exception of the +1 per competitor I won't be asking any others to attend.
But hey that's the way it goes. It would be cool to have cheaper spectator passes so we could invite more family, friends, and gym members to go.

113. Davis wrote...

You're missing it...

It is important to the competitors and there are costs involved in pulling the event off. So, the competitors should foot the bill.

However, the spectators are just there to support their family member, friend, or gym mate. Why would they pay half as much as the competitor? They only care to show support for the competitior that has drawn them there.

Additionally, there are sponsors at these events that are counting on the foot traffic to make their expense worth while.

Charge the competitors and make it very reasonable for people to come out an route us on. reasonable is less than $10 dollars per head.

I have 15 members in my family that planned on attending and I can tell you that I wouldn't dream of letting them pay $50 dollars a head.

114. Jesse wrote...

Looked in the mirror...evrythings still the same. You're missing the whole point that everyone here is voicing Jeff. You spent half your post talking about "sacrifice" and being willing to sacrifice to compete with the "best athlete's in the world". Sounds like you're trying really hard to show everyone how much of a "die hard crossfitter" you are and how much you're willing to sacrifice, I think we get it, you're bad ass crossfitter, good for you. Let's get back to clarifying the actual point of what everyone's talking about here. With the exception of 1 or 2, everyone here is FINE WITH THE COMPETITORS FEE, MANY WOULD BE WILLING TO PAY MORE AS A COMPETITOR, INCLUDING MYSELF. One more time, FINE WITH THE COMPETITORS FEE.

Even competitors that don't have the money on hand, have the ability to go raise money, get personal sponsors, etc. SPECTATORS do not. I agree with you that if you want to COMPETE bad enough, you will find a way. That's NOT what we're talking about.

And telling you that you will not understand the frustration until you look past yourself is not "being negative", its just friendly advice.

Eric - thank you for your input on who is and isn't posting and putting into persective that just because someone cannot afford $50 to watch does not mean they are not true Crossfitters or do not love the sport.

115. adam wrote...

"You're missing the whole point that everyone here is voicing Jeff." -Not everyone is voicing that opinion.

Jesse- Have you seen what is going on with the registration right now? So many people are trying to log in to register that it is super slow and crashing. A little frustrating but validating at the same time. A testament to the demand for these competitions.
Im guessing they will have no problem selling out competitor and spectators spots.

"You spent half your post talking about "sacrifice" and being willing to sacrifice to compete with the "best athlete's in the world". Sounds like you're trying really hard to show everyone how much of a "die hard crossfitter" you are and how much you're willing to sacrifice, I think we get it, you're bad ass crossfitter, good for you." -There's that negativity again!

116. 6am....Matt wrote...

for all that cash you guys better put on a kick ass after party!

I will be ready to drink

117. Kevin W wrote...

I will not be asking anyone from my gym to come to the event at $50 each. That is absolutely absurd!

We will have 4-5 competitors with no supporters! Awesome job HQ!

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